Curse

joshuarodger · Sep 06, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by mugen

well i havent finished gwen yet, i have no pve skill

what do you think of this for exemple
[build=OgikIep5Kzaj7182tXvYMvJ7l/C]

it works

EDIT :heum, oups didnt see "hard mode"

you don't need to have finished gwen in order to get [[whirlwind atta]. it's a sunspear skill. pop on over to kamadan or the sunspear great hall and get it from the hero skill trainer. and the others can be gotten before completing gwen, although you most likely won't have a very high affiliation rank.

Sungas · Sep 06, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Could someone post a workable War/derv build that does not rely a bit on luck on this would be great. Just something a bit more solid. Thanks for the work yall put into this.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 06, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26

There was one posted just a bit before. The Defy Pain one.

Sungas · Sep 06, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Ok then i must be doing something wrong maybe you could post where attribute points are because i am having problems when i do the last attack with whirlwind. I target just before i hit weary stance then hit whirlwind and sometimes they all go down and sometimes they scatter. It seems to be a little bit of luck maybe someone could explain the run and build a bit better.
Thanks again for your time.

HariTec · Sep 06, 2008, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Ummm - gotta admit I havent tried this but in the warrior variant couldnt you remove protectors strike and add in something like Radiation Field or Aura of Thorns (is that the derv one that makes them all bleed?). Basically, I am thinking of the people who are saying that they get the raptors to low health then they scatter - even if they scatter the degen may finish them off for you. Awesome sounding build - I may just try this

Nechtan Thaumaturge · Sep 06, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by 007wood

Does Ebon Battle Standard of Honor works? If so woohoo...

No such luck. I think that Ebon Battle Standard of Honor only enhances regular damage, i.e. not armor-ignoring damage.

Also, just so no one else wastes any time trying it, you won't get Sand Shards to trigger from Clumsiness or Counter Blow. Interruption of an attack apparently doesn't imply failure to hit.

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Originally Posted by cyvil

What is going on when I am doing no damage? The enchants seem to be up, but I get all zeros.

I'm not too sure. Assuming you're doing any damage at all, you should be doing -5's at a minimum. Maybe the 0's you're seeing are the damage they are inflicting on you? Anyway, I'll recommend a couple of things to check:

Make sure Sand Shards is up. No Sand Shards, no damage.
Make sure your Earth Prayers are set to 16 (or 12 if you are W/D). You need every bit of damage.
Make sure you are using a scythe. Sand Shards won't trigger unless you are using a scythe (it used too, but that was apparently pretty broken).
Make sure you are attacking. The Raptor's Disrupting Stab will interrupt any action you undertake, including simple attacks. You generally have to have Wary Stance up to get an attack off with certainty.
Make sure you are missing. Again, Sand Shards doesn't trigger when you actually hit something so using an unblockable attack, for example, defeats the purpose of the build.

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Originally Posted by Sungas

Ok then i must be doing something wrong maybe you could post where attribute points are because i am having problems when i do the last attack with whirlwind. I target just before i hit weary stance then hit whirlwind and sometimes they all go down and sometimes they scatter.

You have to max out your Earth Prayers, for sure. Also, it can't hurt to get your Sunspear rank as high as possible.

As far as the scattering, you want to make sure you are killing them in two blows -- Eternal Aura, and then the Sand Shards spike. Don't attack in between. Also, make sure you aggro as many Raptors as possible and try to delay a bit longer before you hit Whirlwind Attack in order to give the Raptors more time to get their Critical Defenses up.

Lastly, you can always throw in "By Ural's Hammer!" at the open slot. You'll probably want to hit it just before the second Wary Stance. That should lock it.

fgarvin · Sep 19, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

http://www.mediafire.com/?vqghmvzjf9e

Check out my vid guys W/D with scythe

Awesome...thanks.

Gift3d · Sep 23, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

wild strike + disrupting stab = gg

you need about 50 energy to get all skills active on a warrior. this is worthless.

Hey_homies · Sep 23, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

wild strike + disrupting stab = gg

you need about 50 energy to get all skills active on a warrior. this is worthless.

you only aggro the nestlings in the cave and u only use 1 dervish skill on a warrior and that is shards

cyvil · Sep 23, 2008, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by dark_slayer

Thanks for the build.
I think i figured out how to kill them every time.
Heres what i run.
[build prof=Dervish/Warrior][Avatar of Balthazar][Veil of Thorns][Sand Shards][Armor of Sanctity]["To the Limit!"]["By Ural's Hammer!"][Wary Stance][Whirlwind Attack][/build]

Use Armor of Sanctity's recharge as a timer
The second it recharges use "To the Limit!" "By Ural's Hammer!" Wary Stance
Then auto attack 1 time (So you do a little damage to make sure they die)
Then Whirlwind Attack

GG all DEAD

btw ty ty ty for this build

This solved my problem, evidently I was not getting enough adrenaline in time.

Nechtan Thaumaturge · Sep 23, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gift3d

wild strike + disrupting stab = gg

you need about 50 energy to get all skills active on a warrior. this is worthless.

You're way off base here. Wild Strike doesn't come into play since you don't aggro the adult Raptors or the boss. Disrupting Stab is also not a factor for reasons I explained on the second page.

The Warrior build provided by dont feel no pain in post #53 relies on only 4 skills that require energy: Sprint, Sand Shards, Wary Stance, and Eternal Aura. With runes and a +5 energy inscription you can fund these easily, nevermind the fact that Wary Stance returns energy to you.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 24, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Don't forget to put your Asura title up to get +5-15 max energy aswell. You shouldn't need much more than that for a Warrior farm.

0siris · Sep 24, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

First time I'm trying this with a warrior and I'm having a bit of a hard time.

My attributes are 15 Str, 12 Earth, 5 Tactics, around 475 health, no energy problems.

I get to the cave, pre cast sand shards, agro all the raptors then: Dolyak>Wary Stance>Eternal Aura>Defy Pain

wait until wary stance recharges, hit it - and whirlwind attack as soon as its charged.

The problem is that most of the time none of the raptors die! I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have max sunspear title.

the scythe mods shouldn't matter right? save for maybe an enchanting mod to keep sand shards up longer.

any help is much appreciated

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 24, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Try hitting them once normally to do some damage, then Sand Shards should provide enough damage to kill them. Other than that, theres that Deldrimor skill that boosts damage by 25%, can't remember what it's called; it'll get you more damage out of Eternal Aura, it might be enough depending on what your SS rank is.

0siris · Sep 24, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

alright I figured it out...when you get them all aggroed you have to wait a sec for them to all actually be around you before you hit Eternal Aura.

It's kind of a panicky moment because your health drops fast without Defy Pain. Just took some practice and I got the timing down just right

Here's the attributes I use

11+3+1 Strength
12 Earth
5 Tactics

Thanks for the build!

shaygo · Sep 24, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Nechtan Thaumaturge

If you sell the unidentified golds you can probably double or triple that number (what's the going rate, 5 for 7k?)

you wish ! ( and so would I

)
it's 7 for 5k

somehow, i get an error trying to open langdon's W/D version. can anyone put a template code instead ?

El Do · Sep 24, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0siris

alright I figured it out...when you get them all aggroed you have to wait a sec for them to all actually be around you before you hit Eternal Aura.

It's kind of a panicky moment because your health drops fast without Defy Pain. Just took some practice and I got the timing down just right

Here's the attributes I use

11+3+1 Strength
12 Earth
5 Tactics

Thanks for the build!

I have the same attributes but still getting dmg from the raptors while using defy pain... Do you use runes for more armor?

MisterB · Sep 24, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by El Do

I have the same attributes but still getting dmg from the raptors while using defy pain... Do you use runes for more armor?

Do you have Knight's insignia? Superior Absorption?

You could also try weapon swapping if you want to min/max this a bit. You only need to wield a scythe for one attack with Whirlwind to trigger the Sand Shards bomb. You could run to the cave and gather aggro with a caster weapon(+5 energy, +20% enchantments) and a strength shield with -2 enchanted(-2/-2 stance/enchanted, or -2, +10 piercing if you have one, otherwise go for the health). Swap to your scythe once Defy Pain is up. Should work, but don't feel no pain's video shows that none of this additional defense is really needed.

El Do · Sep 25, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09

It works ty

Timoliquid · Sep 29, 2008, 11:09 AM // 11:09

hey i think this is a good build to farm the raptors very fast and effective but im wondering would this work for a survivor and do u really need By Urals hammer??